I have a steel front door that leaks a little air, so I installed a
storm door to help the situation.  A contractor friend told me the
steel door was installed crooked.  He fixed it as best he could.
Since I have installed the storm door, it is constantly fogged over
and dripping with moisture.  Is this an insulation problem, or due to
high humidity in the house????

woods wrote:
> I have a steel front door that leaks a little air, so I installed a
> storm door to help the situation.  A contractor friend told me the
> steel door was installed crooked.  He fixed it as best he could.
> Since I have installed the storm door, it is constantly fogged over
> and dripping with moisture.  Is this an insulation problem, or due to
> high humidity in the house????

Which it is "it"????

If the it in question is storm door, given the hint the other door 
wasn't installed squarely I'd guess it's leaking warmer air from inside 
the house and that's where the moisture is from that is condensing on 
the cooler outer door/glass.

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On Oct 29, 11:04=A0am, woods  wrote:
> I have a steel front door that leaks a little air, so I installed a
> storm door to help the situation. =A0A contractor friend told me the
> steel door was installed crooked. =A0He fixed it as best he could.
> Since I have installed the storm door, it is constantly fogged over
> and dripping with moisture. =A0Is this an insulation problem, or due to
> high humidity in the house????

Both.  There is not a lot of wiggle room with a pre-hung steel door.
The best and surest solution is to remove and reset the door
correctly.  Failing that, the big box stores sell various types of
weatherstripping.  There's a type that has a vinyl bulb attached to a
jamb stop that will help seal the jambs and at the head.  The saddle
can be weatherstripped with the type that has a vinyl flap attached to
a flat piece of metal, and that is attached to the face of the door.

You should check the humidity level in your house anyway.  There are
bigger issues than a little condensate on your storm door, and those
can cause hidden damage/rot.

R

woods wrote:
> I have a steel front door that leaks a little air, so I installed a
> storm door to help the situation.  A contractor friend told me the
> steel door was installed crooked.  He fixed it as best he could.
> Since I have installed the storm door, it is constantly fogged over
> and dripping with moisture.  Is this an insulation problem, or due to
> high humidity in the house????

Hi,
I have a steel door and storm door like you. The reason is your main 
door is leaking warm indoor air causing the condensation. Apso
storm doors come in many different quality level.

On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:04:55 -0700 (PDT), woods
<d...@swiftel.net> wrote:

>I have a steel front door that leaks a little air, so I installed a
>storm door to help the situation.  A contractor friend told me the
>steel door was installed crooked.  He fixed it as best he could.
>Since I have installed the storm door, it is constantly fogged over
>and dripping with moisture.  Is this an insulation problem, or due to
>high humidity in the house????

I can't answer your question, but I would call this condensation.
I'll bet there is some difference between condensation and condensate.

On Oct 29, 11:48=A0am, mm  wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:04:55 -0700 (PDT), woods
>
>  wrote:
> >I have a steel front door that leaks a little air, so I installed a
> >storm door to help the situation. =A0A contractor friend told me the
> >steel door was installed crooked. =A0He fixed it as best he could.
> >Since I have installed the storm door, it is constantly fogged over
> >and dripping with moisture. =A0Is this an insulation problem, or due to
> >high humidity in the house????
>
> I can't answer your question, but I would call this condensation.
> I'll bet there is some difference between condensation and condensate.

Either condensate or condensation is correct.  Correcting something
that is correct isn't.

R

On Oct 29, 11:48=A0am, mm  wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:04:55 -0700 (PDT), woods
>
>  wrote:
> >I have a steel front door that leaks a little air, so I installed a
> >storm door to help the situation. =A0A contractor friend told me the
> >steel door was installed crooked. =A0He fixed it as best he could.
> >Since I have installed the storm door, it is constantly fogged over
> >and dripping with moisture. =A0Is this an insulation problem, or due to
> >high humidity in the house????
>
> I can't answer your question, but I would call this condensation.
> I'll bet there is some difference between condensation and condensate.

The "difference" is that condensation (as it relates to a wet storm
door) is defined as both the process by which matter transitions from
a gas (or vapor) phase into a liquid phase *and* the product of that
process, while condensate is defined as the product only, not the
process.

In other words, both of these are correct:

Condensation caused condensation to appear on the storm door.
Condensation caused condensate to appear on the storm door.

On Oct 29, 1:06=A0pm, dpb  wrote:
> woods wrote:
> > I have a steel front door that leaks a little air, so I installed a
> > storm door to help the situation. =A0A contractor friend told me the
> > steel door was installed crooked. =A0He fixed it as best he could.
> > Since I have installed the storm door, it is constantly fogged over
> > and dripping with moisture. =A0Is this an insulation problem, or due to
> > high humidity in the house????
>

I discovered a little trick to fix my sagging door.  I replaced one of
the screws on the upper door hinge (the part connected to the jamb)
with a 3.5" deck screw.  The extra length penetrated the adjoining
stud, which magically pulled the door back to a level position.  No
need to adjust the frame in any other fashion.  Now the door swings
level, doesn't leak air, and is easy to open/close (as it should be).

On Oct 29, 12:26=A0pm, Borrall Wonnell  wrote:
> On Oct 29, 1:06=A0pm, dpb  wrote:
>
> > woods wrote:
> > > I have a steel front door that leaks a little air, so I installed a
> > > storm door to help the situation. =A0A contractor friend told me the
> > > steel door was installed crooked. =A0He fixed it as best he could.
> > > Since I have installed the storm door, it is constantly fogged over
> > > and dripping with moisture. =A0Is this an insulation problem, or due =
to
> > > high humidity in the house????
>
> I discovered a little trick to fix my sagging door. =A0I replaced one of
> the screws on the upper door hinge (the part connected to the jamb)
> with a 3.5" deck screw. =A0The extra length penetrated the adjoining
> stud, which magically pulled the door back to a level position. =A0No
> need to adjust the frame in any other fashion. =A0Now the door swings
> level, doesn't leak air, and is easy to open/close (as it should be).

Trick? Magic?

If you didn't already have hinge screws that reached the "adjoining
stud" then it's no wonder your door sagged.

That's not magic, that's just a piss-poor installation.

On Oct 29, 12:26=A0pm, Borrall Wonnell  wrote:
> On Oct 29, 1:06=A0pm, dpb  wrote:
>
> > woods wrote:
> > > I have a steel front door that leaks a little air, so I installed a
> > > storm door to help the situation. =A0A contractor friend told me the
> > > steel door was installed crooked. =A0He fixed it as best he could.
> > > Since I have installed the storm door, it is constantly fogged over
> > > and dripping with moisture. =A0Is this an insulation problem, or due =
to
> > > high humidity in the house????
>
> I discovered a little trick to fix my sagging door. =A0I replaced one of
> the screws on the upper door hinge (the part connected to the jamb)
> with a 3.5" deck screw. =A0The extra length penetrated the adjoining
> stud, which magically pulled the door back to a level position. =A0No
> need to adjust the frame in any other fashion. =A0Now the door swings
> level, doesn't leak air, and is easy to open/close (as it should be).

That works sometimes - if the door wasn't installed correctly.  There
should be shims between the jambs and framing on both sides which
would and should prevent much movement.  Yours worked, but you got
lucky.  It's definitely worth a shot, though, if the door is not too
far out of square.

R