Oh, ye who are much smarter than *&&^%$)  Verizon (if one can ever
reach a "human'):

1.  I may have to break down and buy a new 32"TV -- which I hate to
do, given the small number of channels I watch out of the gazillion
available.

Am in throes of trying to understand the pros & cons of LCD vs LED.
The little research I have done on-line, e.g. www.ledvslcdtv.com/> as well as others, has left me more confused than
ever.

I don't want to spend "x" today if the technology is going to take a
quantum leap tomorrow.

Your thoughts on Led vs Lcd welcome.

2.  A supposedly knowledgeable friend told me that paying more for a
1080 pixels TV is justified only if images are transmitted in 1080.
Can images be transmitted either way?  Or is it a function of the
receiver? (Showing my ignorance )

Your thoughts on 1080 vs 720 greatly appreciated.

HB

In article 
<3...@fj16g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
 Higgs Boson <h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Your thoughts on Led vs Lcd welcome.


There is no such thing as an LED TV. The display is still LCD. The LEDs 
are used only for backlighting, in place of other types of backlighting.

On Nov 17, 2:28=A0pm, Higgs Boson  wrote:
> Your thoughts on Led vs Lcd welcome.

Buy something at the nexus of affordability, bigness, and "quality."
I got a big 'ol Sony LCD a year ago for the bonus room, mostly for
kids' gaming.  Then it turned into the main TV watching place, once I
hooked it up to cable...

> Your thoughts on 1080 vs 720 greatly appreciated.

No signal benefits from LCD, plasma, LED, or anything else unless it
comes to you in HD.  The difference between HD and non-HD channels on
my cable (and over the air, before I plugged it into the cable as an
antenna) is staggering.  I get a couple of channels in HD, and they
are big, bright and beautiful compared to grainy, smeary old-standard
channels.

I now have a standing rule in the house - nobody buys a movie unless
it's BluRay.  Now even DVDs look grainy and smeary compared to the
stunning detail on BluRays on the big Sony.  Sounds like a commercial,
I know.

Now, on to my philosophy on "should I wait forever for the next big
thing?" - um, no.  Jump in, enjoy it while you have it.  Opportunity
cost is expensive, too.  Yes, one day soon we will all have 3D TVs to
replace our Plasma/LED/LCD/whatever TVs.  Until then... rest your
weary eyes on a big, bright screen.

On Nov 17, 2:28=A0pm, Higgs Boson  wrote:
> Oh, ye who are much smarter than *&&^%$) =A0Verizon (if one can ever
> reach a "human'):
>
> 1. =A0I may have to break down and buy a new 32"TV -- which I hate to
> do, given the small number of channels I watch out of the gazillion
> available.
>
> Am in throes of trying to understand the pros & cons of LCD vs LED.
> The little research I have done on-line, e.g. <http://www.ledvslcdtv.com/=
> as well as others, has left me more confused than
> ever.
>
> I don't want to spend "x" today if the technology is going to take a
> quantum leap tomorrow.
>
> Your thoughts on Led vs Lcd welcome.
>
> 2. =A0A supposedly knowledgeable friend told me that paying more for a
> 1080 pixels TV is justified only if images are transmitted in 1080.
> Can images be transmitted either way? =A0Or is it a function of the
> receiver? (Showing my ignorance )
>
> Your thoughts on 1080 vs 720 greatly appreciated.
>
> HB

re: 2. your friend is correct but even OTA channels in my area are
1080i so I would not spend the money on a new TV unless it was capable
of displaying 1080i/1080p.  also blu-ray discs will not look as good
as they could on a 720p TV.

FWIW I bought a 25" monitor/TV combo a while back for $300 and it is
true 1080p, I am now spoiled.  For a TV only device I expect you could
pay less.

nate

On Nov 17, 2:28=A0pm, Higgs Boson  wrote:
> Oh, ye who are much smarter than *&&^%$) =A0Verizon (if one can ever
> reach a "human'):
>
> 1. =A0I may have to break down and buy a new 32"TV -- which I hate to
> do, given the small number of channels I watch out of the gazillion
> available.
>
> Am in throes of trying to understand the pros & cons of LCD vs LED.
> The little research I have done on-line, e.g. <http://www.ledvslcdtv.com/=
> as well as others, has left me more confused than
> ever.
>
> I don't want to spend "x" today if the technology is going to take a
> quantum leap tomorrow.
>
> Your thoughts on Led vs Lcd welcome.
>
> 2. =A0A supposedly knowledgeable friend told me that paying more for a
> 1080 pixels TV is justified only if images are transmitted in 1080.
> Can images be transmitted either way? =A0Or is it a function of the
> receiver? (Showing my ignorance )
>
> Your thoughts on 1080 vs 720 greatly appreciated.
>
> HB

Cable and satelite are both providing lots of 1080i signals these
days.  I know that direct tv has some pay per view movies at 1080p.
Blue ray is 1080p.  The various game machines also have higher
resolutions but I only know that the playstsation 3 is 1080p.  On a
32" it is harder to tell the difference between picture quality at 720
verses 1080.  The pricing is down far enouhg now that I would consider
somthing larger.

responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/Led-vs-LCD-TVs-and-720-pixels-vs-1080-604606-.htm 
DA wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:

> Am in throes of trying to understand the pros & cons of LCD vs LED.

It's not LCD vs. LED. There is only one LED (OLED) TV on the market (Sony
XEL-1) that I'm aware of and at a whopping 11" diagonal you are probably
not considering it, unless it's for some special application (that I'm
struggling to envision, at the $1000 sticker price)

It's LCD with fluorescent (uncontrolled) backlight vs. LCD with LED
(controlled) backlight. I'd say it's a no-brainer - LED backlight lets
them turn it off when black is expected which gives it deeper shades of
black (better contrast). I'd definitely go for the LED-backlit LCD TV
these days.

> Your thoughts on 1080 vs 720 greatly appreciated.

Verizon will be happy to lease you an HD cable box that does output HD at
1080 (although, come to think of it, I'm not sure if it's interlaced 1080i
or full 1080p). Either way 720 looks rather disappointing compared
side-by-side with 1080 so, if budget allows, 1080p TV is definitely the
way to go. You'll need to have them ship you a new cable box, then you'll
ship them the old one back.

You are right, Verizon does a great job of shielding their humans
(whomever is left there) from, what'cha call them? Customers! I did have
lots of fun getting to the bottom of the problem in HDMI communication
between the Verizon's HD box and my Samsung TV. On the third attempt an
actual human answered that Vz HD box is "known to not work with Samsung
TVs over HDMI cables" so I'm back to composite cables and no surround
sound at this TV...

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():::()  OWL
 VV-VV

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:28:12 -0800, Higgs Boson wrote:

> Oh, ye who are much smarter than *&&^%$)  Verizon (if one can ever reach
> a "human'):
> 
> 1.  I may have to break down and buy a new 32"TV -- which I hate to do,
> given the small number of channels I watch out of the gazillion
> available.
> 
> Am in throes of trying to understand the pros & cons of LCD vs LED. The
> little research I have done on-line, e.g. www.ledvslcdtv.com/>
> as well as others, has left me more confused than ever.
> 
> I don't want to spend "x" today if the technology is going to take a
> quantum leap tomorrow.
> 
> Your thoughts on Led vs Lcd welcome.
> 
> 2.  A supposedly knowledgeable friend told me that paying more for a
> 1080 pixels TV is justified only if images are transmitted in 1080. Can
> images be transmitted either way?  Or is it a function of the receiver?
> (Showing my ignorance )
> 
> Your thoughts on 1080 vs 720 greatly appreciated.
> 
> HB

Cable and over the air are capable of 1080i. It does make a difference 
for the better when I watch a show in 1080 vs 720. Can't describe exactly 
what it is, just better.

On Nov 17, 1:28=A0pm, Higgs Boson  wrote:
> Oh, ye who are much smarter than *&&^%$) =A0Verizon (if one can ever
> reach a "human'):
>
> 1. =A0I may have to break down and buy a new 32"TV -- which I hate to
> do, given the small number of channels I watch out of the gazillion
> available.
>
> Am in throes of trying to understand the pros & cons of LCD vs LED.
> The little research I have done on-line, e.g. <http://www.ledvslcdtv.com/=
> as well as others, has left me more confused than
> ever.
>
> I don't want to spend "x" today if the technology is going to take a
> quantum leap tomorrow.
>
> Your thoughts on Led vs Lcd welcome.
>
> 2. =A0A supposedly knowledgeable friend told me that paying more for a
> 1080 pixels TV is justified only if images are transmitted in 1080.
> Can images be transmitted either way? =A0Or is it a function of the
> receiver? (Showing my ignorance )
>
> Your thoughts on 1080 vs 720 greatly appreciated.
>
> HB

There is 1080i as in interlaced scan and 1080p as in progressive scan.
1080p is twice as good as 1080i for resolution and only Blue Ray and
satelite do output of 1080p that I know of. Netflix is planning on
1080p.  720p is about equal in sharpness to 1080i. Regular High
Defination from cable or off air is 720p. Dvds are 520, and there are
regular interlaced players and progressive scan. Led is a type of
lighting for the Liqued Crystal Display that everyone wants because
tvs can be very thin, Led tvs are supposed to have a bit better color,
contrast and brightness, but at stores its hard to tell and Led are
never next to regular flourescent lit units. At Walmart black friday
deals you should be able to get a 32  Lcd for 200.00, order online and
I think its free delivery, its a great deal. Im sure its a 720p non
led tv but it will be nice. Netflix is working on 1080p as their next
step in the near future but for a 32 its not as importent as a 55" tv.
I wanted satelite but have to many trees.

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:28:12 -0800 (PST), Higgs Boson
<h...@gmail.com> wrote:

>2.  A supposedly knowledgeable friend told me that paying more for a
>1080 pixels TV is justified only if images are transmitted in 1080.

Determine if the company compresses it's content... 

>Can images be transmitted either way?  Or is it a function of the
>receiver? (Showing my ignorance )
>

>Your thoughts on 1080 vs 720 greatly appreciated.

For use with Blu-Ray players you would need a 1080p or 720p (note the
"p") ...

LCD?  My 15" PC monitor is many years old. I'm now after a bigger LCD
monitor.

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http://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/Led-vs-LCD-TVs-and-720-pixels-vs-1080-604606-.htm 
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schmidtd wrote:

> On Nov 17, 2:28=A0pm, Higgs Boson  wrote:
>> Your thoughts on Led vs Lcd welcome.

> Buy something at the nexus of affordability, bigness, and
> "quality."
> I got a big 'ol Sony LCD a year ago for the bonus room, mostly for
> kids' gaming.  Then it turned into the main TV watching place, once I
> hooked it up to cable...

>> Your thoughts on 1080 vs 720 greatly appreciated.

> No signal benefits from LCD, plasma, LED, or anything else unless it
> comes to you in HD.  The difference between HD and non-HD channels on
> my cable (and over the air, before I plugged it into the cable as an
> antenna) is staggering.  I get a couple of channels in HD, and they
> are big, bright and beautiful compared to grainy, smeary old-standard
> channels.

> I now have a standing rule in the house - nobody buys a movie unless
> it's BluRay.  Now even DVDs look grainy and smeary compared to the
> stunning detail on BluRays on the big Sony.  Sounds like a commercial,
> I know.

> Now, on to my philosophy on "should I wait forever for the next
> big
> thing?" - um, no.  Jump in, enjoy it while you have it. 
> Opportunity
> cost is expensive, too.  Yes, one day soon we will all have 3D TVs to
> replace our Plasma/LED/LCD/whatever TVs.  Until then... rest your
> weary eyes on a big, bright screen.



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