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Porch alignment - Illinois Bob - 2009-07-06 17:30:00
I have a problem with the porch roof and supporting pillars... http://i27.tinypic.com/2exu9ma.jpg they lean slightly to the right... politically... it's no problem... but esthetically... I need a fix... any ideas?
Re: Porch alignment - Ed Pawlowski - 2009-07-06 19:03:00
"Illinois Bob" <i...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:s...@4ax.com... >I have a problem with the porch roof and supporting pillars... > > http://i27.tinypic.com/2exu9ma.jpg > > they lean slightly to the right... > > politically... it's no problem... > > but esthetically... I need a fix... > > > any ideas? Just try jacking the house on the low side with bottle jacks and a piece of I beam. Alternatively, you can get a tripod and level the camera.
Re: Porch alignment - Clot - 2009-07-06 19:21:00
Ed Pawlowski wrote: > "Illinois Bob" <i...@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:s...@4ax.com... >> I have a problem with the porch roof and supporting pillars... >> >> http://i27.tinypic.com/2exu9ma.jpg >> >> they lean slightly to the right... >> >> politically... it's no problem... >> >> but esthetically... I need a fix... >> >> >> any ideas? > > Just try jacking the house on the low side with bottle jacks and a > piece of I beam. Alternatively, you can get a tripod and level the > camera. Snap
Re: Porch alignment - aemeijers - 2009-07-06 21:26:00
Clot wrote: > Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> "Illinois Bob" <i...@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:s...@4ax.com... >>> I have a problem with the porch roof and supporting pillars... >>> >>> http://i27.tinypic.com/2exu9ma.jpg >>> >>> they lean slightly to the right... >>> >>> politically... it's no problem... >>> >>> but esthetically... I need a fix... >>> >>> >>> any ideas? >> Just try jacking the house on the low side with bottle jacks and a >> piece of I beam. Alternatively, you can get a tripod and level the >> camera. > > Snap > > Hard to tell from the skewed picture, but it does look like one porch pier settled, or the other one (with the failed stucco) has frost-heaved. Need to stare at it awhile in person, and make use of a 4-foot level, maybe a water level, and some big marbles, to figure out what is going on. Porch may need jacking on one corner, and a pier rebuilt or shimmed, depending on condition. -- aem sends...
Re: Porch alignment - Illinois Bob - 2009-07-06 21:30:00
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:03:54 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote: > >"Illinois Bob" <i...@comcast.net> wrote in message >news:s...@4ax.com... >>I have a problem with the porch roof and supporting pillars... >> >> http://i27.tinypic.com/2exu9ma.jpg >> >> they lean slightly to the right... >> >> politically... it's no problem... >> >> but esthetically... I need a fix... >> >> >> any ideas? > >Just try jacking the house on the low side with bottle jacks and a piece of >I beam. Alternatively, you can get a tripod and level the camera. > ....SNARF!!! thanx.....
Re: Porch alignment - mm - 2009-07-06 22:12:00
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:30:38 -0500, Illinois Bob <i...@comcast.net> wrote: >I have a problem with the porch roof and supporting pillars... > >http://i27.tinypic.com/2exu9ma.jpg > >they lean slightly to the right... > >politically... it's no problem... > >but esthetically... I need a fix... > > >any ideas? Well I see it clearly. The right front top is to the right of the right rear top. And the center front post leans a little relative to the door frame. I have very little experience, but I'm not sure how a bad pier would cause this. But what do I know. I would measure it carefully and precisely and check every year or 6 months to make sure it's not getting worse. I'd measure dimensions and the verticality of the posts. I'm not sure which would show a change first, but I'd try to measure as many things as I could in a reasonable amount of time.
Re: Porch alignment - Southern Bob - 2009-07-06 22:27:00
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:12:45 -0400, mm <N...@bigfoot.com> wrote: >On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:30:38 -0500, Illinois Bob ><i...@comcast.net> wrote: > >>I have a problem with the porch roof and supporting pillars... >> >>http://i27.tinypic.com/2exu9ma.jpg >> >>they lean slightly to the right... >> >>politically... it's no problem... >> >>but esthetically... I need a fix... >> >> >>any ideas? > >Well I see it clearly. The right front top is to the right of the >right rear top. > >And the center front post leans a little relative to the door frame. > >I have very little experience, but I'm not sure how a bad pier would >cause this. But what do I know. > >I would measure it carefully and precisely and check every year or 6 >months to make sure it's not getting worse. I'd measure dimensions >and the verticality of the posts. I'm not sure which would show a >change first, but I'd try to measure as many things as I could in a >reasonable amount of time. yur right... I don't think a bad pier would cause this.... I don't know how long this thing has been leaning... it's a recent discovery... however, it has to be corrected and i'm still in the dark... there's a giant tree just to the left and I'm tempted to tie a belt to it and to the far end of the porch pillar and tighten till it's 2 inches on plumb..... mebby I'm simplyfying this a tad.... but I think it'll work... with some shims stuck in of course...... but what do I know.... I'm just a phone man....
Re: Porch alignment - mm - 2009-07-06 23:07:00
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:27:37 -0500, Southern Bob <s...@bigfoot.com> wrote: >On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:12:45 -0400, mm <N...@bigfoot.com> >wrote: > >>On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:30:38 -0500, Illinois Bob >><i...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>>I have a problem with the porch roof and supporting pillars... >>> >>>http://i27.tinypic.com/2exu9ma.jpg >>> >>>they lean slightly to the right... >>> >>>politically... it's no problem... >>> >>>but esthetically... I need a fix... >>> >>> >>>any ideas? >> >>Well I see it clearly. The right front top is to the right of the >>right rear top. >> >>And the center front post leans a little relative to the door frame. >> >>I have very little experience, but I'm not sure how a bad pier would >>cause this. But what do I know. >> >>I would measure it carefully and precisely and check every year or 6 >>months to make sure it's not getting worse. I'd measure dimensions >>and the verticality of the posts. I'm not sure which would show a >>change first, but I'd try to measure as many things as I could in a >>reasonable amount of time. > >yur right... I don't think a bad pier would cause this.... I don't >know how long this thing has been leaning... it's a recent >discovery... however, it has to be corrected and i'm still in the >dark... > >there's a giant tree just to the left and I'm tempted to tie a belt to >it and to the far end of the porch pillar and tighten till it's 2 >inches on plumb..... mebby I'm simplyfying this a tad.... but I think And you'll leave it that way? That might work. I thought of putting a cable and turnbuckle in from the left top rear to the top front right, and from the left front bottom to the top front right, but a) I don't know who to attach them well enough to actually pull hard enough, b) they would be ugly when left in place, c) if you wanted to remove them, I don't know how to keep the porch from going back the way it was (short of doing something triple ugly, much worse than a cable from a tree.). The tree sounds better, if you have to fix this. I would do measurements as soon as possible. If you see changes in 2 months or by October, you'll think harder. >it'll work... with some shims stuck in of course...... but what do I >know.... I'm just a phone man.... Call up the porch and ask it what's bothering it.
Re: Porch alignment - Southern Bob - 2009-07-06 23:56:00
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:07:59 -0400, mm <N...@bigfoot.com> wrote: >On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:27:37 -0500, Southern Bob ><s...@bigfoot.com> wrote: > >>On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:12:45 -0400, mm <N...@bigfoot.com> >>wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:30:38 -0500, Illinois Bob >>><i...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>>I have a problem with the porch roof and supporting pillars... >>>> >>>>http://i27.tinypic.com/2exu9ma.jpg >>>> >>>>they lean slightly to the right... >>>> >>>>politically... it's no problem... >>>> >>>>but esthetically... I need a fix... >>>> >>>> >>>>any ideas? >>> >>>Well I see it clearly. The right front top is to the right of the >>>right rear top. >>> >>>And the center front post leans a little relative to the door frame. >>> >>>I have very little experience, but I'm not sure how a bad pier would >>>cause this. But what do I know. >>> >>>I would measure it carefully and precisely and check every year or 6 >>>months to make sure it's not getting worse. I'd measure dimensions >>>and the verticality of the posts. I'm not sure which would show a >>>change first, but I'd try to measure as many things as I could in a >>>reasonable amount of time. >> >>yur right... I don't think a bad pier would cause this.... I don't >>know how long this thing has been leaning... it's a recent >>discovery... however, it has to be corrected and i'm still in the >>dark... >> >>there's a giant tree just to the left and I'm tempted to tie a belt to >>it and to the far end of the porch pillar and tighten till it's 2 >>inches on plumb..... mebby I'm simplyfying this a tad.... but I think > >And you'll leave it that way? That might work. I thought of putting >a cable and turnbuckle in from the left top rear to the top front >right, and from the left front bottom to the top front right, but a) I >don't know who to attach them well enough to actually pull hard >enough, I thought of that too... mebby hiding the gear in the attic of the porch.... might work..... >remove them, I don't know how to keep the porch from going back the >way it was (short of doing something triple ugly, much worse than a >cable from a tree.). > >The tree sounds better, if you have to fix this. I would do >measurements as soon as possible. If you see changes in 2 months or >by October, you'll think harder. my brain hurts now... can't think what it's gonna be like in October this is prolly the way it's been since day 1... mebby not... don't know if'n it's worth the bother.... > >>it'll work... with some shims stuck in of course...... but what do I >>know.... I'm just a phone man.... > >Call up the porch and ask it what's bothering it. heh!... ok.... ring ring.... thanks fer yur help....
Re: Porch alignment - Jim Elbrecht - 2009-07-07 06:45:00
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:30:38 -0500, Illinois Bob <i...@comcast.net> wrote: >I have a problem with the porch roof and supporting pillars... > >http://i27.tinypic.com/2exu9ma.jpg > >they lean slightly to the right... To outside observers-- but to the occupants they lean left.> >politically... it's no problem... > >but esthetically... I need a fix... > > >any ideas? My guess is that the roofer leaned a ladder on the left side when all the sheathing was off. I think you'll do nothing good by trying to rack it back by brute force. Do you have pictures of the roofing job- or before? But I might throw a rope around the roof and tree and see how much it takes to wiggle the thing-- and if it goes back to its current position when pressure is released. [I'm talking fractions of an inch] If I'm right- then leave it alone until you replace the roof- and re-do the sheathing. And if it really bothers you- just re-box the posts with plumb boxes. I don't think there is enough problem there to create a dangerous situation. [*if* I'm right- that it is just racked to the right but the lumber is in good condition] Jim