I have a small ramp built of asphalt about 5 feet wide and 4 feet in length 
for my lawn tractor.  Over the year, it has sunken about 3-4 inches similar 
to the problem with asphalt driveway at the juction of the garage entrance. 
I would like to rebuild it up with asphalt such as Bomix.  My question is - 
do I need to put some type of adhesive on the old surface before laying the 
new asphalt, or is Bomix potholes repair asphalt the material to use? 
Would concrete mix on top of the old ram a better idea to repair this ?

Thank you for all your advice. 

Luckyme wrote:
> I have a small ramp built of asphalt about 5 feet wide and 4 feet in 
> length for my lawn tractor.  Over the year, it has sunken about 3-4 
> inches similar to the problem with asphalt driveway at the juction of 
> the garage entrance. I would like to rebuild it up with asphalt such as 
> Bomix.  My question is - do I need to put some type of adhesive on the 
> old surface before laying the new asphalt, or is Bomix potholes repair 
> asphalt the material to use? Would concrete mix on top of the old ram a 
> better idea to repair this ?
> 
> Thank you for all your advice.

Concrete sounds like a bad idea since it is rigid.

Lou

On Apr 28, 3:45=EF=BF=BDpm, "Luckyme"  wrote:
> I have a small ramp built of asphalt about 5 feet wide and 4 feet in leng=
th
> for my lawn tractor. =EF=BF=BDOver the year, it has sunken about 3-4 inch=
es similar
> to the problem with asphalt driveway at the juction of the garage entranc=
e.
> I would like to rebuild it up with asphalt such as Bomix. =EF=BF=BDMy que=
stion is -
> do I need to put some type of adhesive on the old surface before laying t=
he
> new asphalt, or is Bomix potholes repair asphalt the material to use?
> Would concrete mix on top of the old ram a better idea to repair this ?
>
> Thank you for all your advice.

whatever is causing the sag, probably a poor base will continue to get
worse, better to rip up and replace entirely, with new gravel base

"LouB" <L...@invalid.com> wrote in message 
news:4...@invalid.com...
> Luckyme wrote:
>> I have a small ramp built of asphalt about 5 feet wide and 4 feet in 
>> length for my lawn tractor.  Over the year, it has sunken about 3-4 
>> inches similar to the problem with asphalt driveway at the juction of the 
>> garage entrance. I would like to rebuild it up with asphalt such as 
>> Bomix.  My question is - do I need to put some type of adhesive on the 
>> old surface before laying the new asphalt, or is Bomix potholes repair 
>> asphalt the material to use? Would concrete mix on top of the old ram a 
>> better idea to repair this ?
>>
>> Thank you for all your advice.
>
> Concrete sounds like a bad idea since it is rigid.
>
> Lou

I have a feeling you are right.  But I just don't know if the new asphalt 
will bond to the old asphalt surface.

Any advice, anyone ? 

>"LouB" <L...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:4...@invalid.com...
>>Luckyme wrote:
>>>I have a small ramp built of asphalt about 5 feet wide and 4 feet
>>>in  length for my lawn tractor.  Over the year, it has sunken
>>>about 3-4  inches similar to the problem with asphalt driveway at
>>>the juction of the  garage entrance. I would like to rebuild it
>>>up with asphalt such as  Bomix.  My question is - do I need to
>>>put some type of adhesive on the  old surface before laying the
>>>new asphalt, or is Bomix potholes repair  asphalt the material to
>>>use? Would concrete mix on top of the old ram a  better idea to
>>>repair this ?
>>>
>>>Thank you for all your advice.
>>
>>Concrete sounds like a bad idea since it is rigid.
>
>I have a feeling you are right.  But I just don't know if the new
>asphalt will bond to the old asphalt surface.
>
>Any advice, anyone ?

The summer I spent on the grounds crew at my college, we mopped the
inside of potholes with what looked like liquid tar, then tamped in the
cold patch asphalt. The boss said the liquid stuff made the cold patch
stick better. I took him at his word.

Go to the hardware store and read the instructions on the can of
liquid-tar-like-stuff. It's probably cheap enough that you should just
use it.

-- 
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX USA

On Apr 29, 7:06=A0pm, "SteveBell"  wrote:
> >"LouB"  wrote in message
> >news:4...@invalid.com...
> >>Luckyme wrote:
> >>>I have a small ramp built of asphalt about 5 feet wide and 4 feet
> >>>in =A0length for my lawn tractor. =A0Over the year, it has sunken
> >>>about 3-4 =A0inches similar to the problem with asphalt driveway at
> >>>the juction of the =A0garage entrance. I would like to rebuild it
> >>>up with asphalt such as =A0Bomix. =A0My question is - do I need to
> >>>put some type of adhesive on the =A0old surface before laying the
> >>>new asphalt, or is Bomix potholes repair =A0asphalt the material to
> >>>use? Would concrete mix on top of the old ram a =A0better idea to
> >>>repair this ?
>
> >>>Thank you for all your advice.
>
> >>Concrete sounds like a bad idea since it is rigid.
>
> >I have a feeling you are right. =A0But I just don't know if the new
> >asphalt will bond to the old asphalt surface.
>
> >Any advice, anyone ?
>
> The summer I spent on the grounds crew at my college, we mopped the
> inside of potholes with what looked like liquid tar, then tamped in the
> cold patch asphalt. The boss said the liquid stuff made the cold patch
> stick better. I took him at his word.

Yes, there is a tack coat product that is used by commercial companies
when doing asphalt patch work and it's applied as you say.  It helps
bond the patch to the existing asphalt.



>
> Go to the hardware store and read the instructions on the can of
> liquid-tar-like-stuff. It's probably cheap enough that you should just
> use it.

But here's the problem.   The local hardware store isn't going to have
it, nor will they know what you're talking about.   And even if they
did give you some "liquid-tar-like stuff", it's going to be roofing
cement, which I highly doubt is at all suited to the application.   In
fact, I suspect it's worse than using nothing.

I looked around for it a bit years ago and had no success.   Perhaps
it can be found online.   But next problem will likely be that it
comes in large quantities suited to pros.




>
> --
> Steve Bell
> New Life Home Improvement
> Arlington, TX USA- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

In article 4...@PRIMUS.CA>,
 "Luckyme" <t...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> "LouB" <L...@invalid.com> wrote in message 
> news:4...@invalid.com...
> > Luckyme wrote:
> >> I have a small ramp built of asphalt about 5 feet wide and 4 feet in 
> >> length for my lawn tractor.  Over the year, it has sunken about 3-4 
> >> inches similar to the problem with asphalt driveway at the juction of the 
> >> garage entrance. I would like to rebuild it up with asphalt such as 
> >> Bomix.  My question is - do I need to put some type of adhesive on the 
> >> old surface before laying the new asphalt, or is Bomix potholes repair 
> >> asphalt the material to use? Would concrete mix on top of the old ram a 
> >> better idea to repair this ?
> >>
> >> Thank you for all your advice.
> >
> > Concrete sounds like a bad idea since it is rigid.
> >
> > Lou
> 
> I have a feeling you are right.  But I just don't know if the new asphalt 
> will bond to the old asphalt surface.
> 
> Any advice, anyone ? 

If the old asphalt sank 3-4 inches in one year, putting new stuff on top 
isn't going to fix the problem whether it sticks or not. You need to rip 
it all apart and lay a proper base that won't sink.

"Smitty Two" <p...@earthlink.net> wrote in message 
news:p...@news.west.cox.net...
> In article 4...@PRIMUS.CA>,
> "Luckyme" <t...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>> "LouB" <L...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:4...@invalid.com...
>> > Luckyme wrote:
>> >> I have a small ramp built of asphalt about 5 feet wide and 4 feet in
>> >> length for my lawn tractor.  Over the year, it has sunken about 3-4
>> >> inches similar to the problem with asphalt driveway at the juction of 
>> >> the
>> >> garage entrance. I would like to rebuild it up with asphalt such as
>> >> Bomix.  My question is - do I need to put some type of adhesive on the
>> >> old surface before laying the new asphalt, or is Bomix potholes repair
>> >> asphalt the material to use? Would concrete mix on top of the old ram 
>> >> a
>> >> better idea to repair this ?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for all your advice.
>> >
>> > Concrete sounds like a bad idea since it is rigid.
>> >
>> > Lou
>>
>> I have a feeling you are right.  But I just don't know if the new asphalt
>> will bond to the old asphalt surface.
>>
>> Any advice, anyone ?
>
> If the old asphalt sank 3-4 inches in one year, putting new stuff on top
> isn't going to fix the problem whether it sticks or not. You need to rip
> it all apart and lay a proper base that won't sink.

It was a typo - it should read " Over the years" ( more like 10 years).  My 
apology, Smitty Two. 

On Apr 28, 3:45=A0pm, "Luckyme"  wrote:
> I have a small ramp built of asphalt about 5 feet wide and 4 feet in leng=
th
> for my lawn tractor. =A0Over the year, it has sunken about 3-4 inches sim=
ilar
> to the problem with asphalt driveway at the juction of the garage entranc=
e.
> I would like to rebuild it up with asphalt such as Bomix. =A0My question =
is -
> do I need to put some type of adhesive on the old surface before laying t=
he
> new asphalt, or is Bomix potholes repair asphalt the material to use?
> Would concrete mix on top of the old ram a better idea to repair this ?

I agree with those who say that it will continue to sink.

Frankly it will probably cost about the same to rip it out, fix the
base, and replace with concrete or a treated wood ramp.

In article <218cc$49f99fa2$d1d97c81$2...@PRIMUS.CA>,
 "Luckyme" <t...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> "Smitty Two" <p...@earthlink.net> wrote in message 
> news:p...@news.west.cox.net...
> > In article 4...@PRIMUS.CA>,
> > "Luckyme" <t...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> "LouB" <L...@invalid.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4...@invalid.com...
> >> > Luckyme wrote:
> >> >> I have a small ramp built of asphalt about 5 feet wide and 4 feet in
> >> >> length for my lawn tractor.  Over the year, it has sunken about 3-4
> >> >> inches similar to the problem with asphalt driveway at the juction of 
> >> >> the
> >> >> garage entrance. I would like to rebuild it up with asphalt such as
> >> >> Bomix.  My question is - do I need to put some type of adhesive on the
> >> >> old surface before laying the new asphalt, or is Bomix potholes repair
> >> >> asphalt the material to use? Would concrete mix on top of the old ram 
> >> >> a
> >> >> better idea to repair this ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you for all your advice.
> >> >
> >> > Concrete sounds like a bad idea since it is rigid.
> >> >
> >> > Lou
> >>
> >> I have a feeling you are right.  But I just don't know if the new asphalt
> >> will bond to the old asphalt surface.
> >>
> >> Any advice, anyone ?
> >
> > If the old asphalt sank 3-4 inches in one year, putting new stuff on top
> > isn't going to fix the problem whether it sticks or not. You need to rip
> > it all apart and lay a proper base that won't sink.
> 
> It was a typo - it should read " Over the years" ( more like 10 years).  My 
> apology, Smitty Two. 

Ah, gotcha. That sounds a little better. Resurfacing might hold you for 
a while, then. Still sounds like a lot of sinking, though, particularly 
with only the weight of a lawn tractor on it.