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Gutter Nail Replacement? - Ron Hardin - 2009-04-18 13:22:00

My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have worked 
themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no resistance 
to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?
-- 
r...@mindspring.com

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Re: Gutter Nail Replacement? - Frank - 2009-04-18 13:36:00

Ron Hardin wrote:
> My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have worked 
> themselves out over 40 years, I guess.
> 
> I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no resistance 
> to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.
> 
> Obviously they will not stay.
> 
> Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one size?
> 
> Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?
> 
> Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?
> 
> What's the drill for this?

Ron,

There are gutter screws:

http://www.gutterworks.com/gutterscrews.html

Never tried but I had heard of them.

Frank

Re: Gutter Nail Replacement? - 2009-04-18 13:49:00

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
<r...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have worked 
>themselves out over 40 years, I guess.
>
>I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no resistance 
>to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.
>
>Obviously they will not stay.
>
>Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one size?
>
>Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?
>
>Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?
>
>What's the drill for this?

My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
gutter nail a few inches away.

Re: Gutter Nail Replacement? - Clot - 2009-04-18 14:08:00

g...@aol.com wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
> <r...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
>> worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.
>>
>> I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
>> resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes
>> by hand.
>>
>> Obviously they will not stay.
>>
>> Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
>> one size?
>>
>> Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?
>>
>> Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?
>>
>> What's the drill for this?
>
> My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
> gutter nail a few inches away.

I wondered that as well. If it is the case, then affixing the gutter should 
only be a temporary measure whilst arranging to replace the fascia. 



Re: Gutter Nail Replacement? - 2009-04-18 17:17:00

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:36:37 -0400, Frank
<f...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Ron Hardin wrote:
>> My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have worked 
>> themselves out over 40 years, I guess.
>> 
>> I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no resistance 
>> to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.
>> 
>> Obviously they will not stay.
>> 
>> Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one size?
>> 
>> Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?
>> 
>> Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?
>> 
>> What's the drill for this?
>
>Ron,
>
>There are gutter screws:
>
>http://www.gutterworks.com/gutterscrews.html
>
>Never tried but I had heard of them.
>
>Frank

I've used them. I had one area of gutter that was pulling away and
water was running down inside the siding. The gutter screws pulled it
tight against the house better than new. I have since gone around the
whole house and replaced all nails with the screws. It makes a big
difference in how secure the gutters are. 

That was 15 years ago. No problems since. I've seen them at Home
Depot.

Re: Gutter Nail Replacement? - hr(bob) hofmann@att.net - 2009-04-18 18:16:00

On Apr 18, 4:17=A0pm, s...@dog.com wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:36:37 -0400, Frank
>
>
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >Ron Hardin wrote:
> >> My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have wor=
ked
> >> themselves out over 40 years, I guess.
>
> >> I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no res=
istance
> >> to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.
>
> >> Obviously they will not stay.
>
> >> Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one =
size?
>
> >> Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?
>
> >> Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?
>
> >> What's the drill for this?
>
> >Ron,
>
> >There are gutter screws:
>
> >http://www.gutterworks.com/gutterscrews.html
>
> >Never tried but I had heard of them.
>
> >Frank
>
> I've used them. I had one area of gutter that was pulling away and
> water was running down inside the siding. The gutter screws pulled it
> tight against the house better than new. I have since gone around the
> whole house and replaced all nails with the screws. It makes a big
> difference in how secure the gutters are.
>
> That was 15 years ago. No problems since. I've seen them at Home
> Depot.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

ALternately, fill the hole with hot glue for a quick fix, then drill
it out just enough for a pilot hole, and renail

Re: Gutter Nail Replacement? - SteveBell - 2009-04-18 20:37:00

In article E...@newsfe26.ams2>, c...@ntlglobe.goon says...
> 
> g...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
> > <r...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
> >> worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.
> >>
> >> I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
> >> resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes
> >> by hand.
> >>
> >> Obviously they will not stay.
> >>
> >> Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
> >> one size?
> >>
> >> Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?
> >>
> >> Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?
> >>
> >> What's the drill for this?
> >
> > My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
> > gutter nail a few inches away.
> 
> I wondered that as well. If it is the case, then affixing the gutter should 
> only be a temporary measure whilst arranging to replace the fascia. 

The nails are supposed to go into the ends of the rafter tails behind the fascia. The fascia is likely just 3/4" thick,
which doesn't provide much strength.

-- 
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

Re: Gutter Nail Replacement? - Clot - 2009-04-18 20:43:00

SteveBell wrote:
> In article E...@newsfe26.ams2>,
> c...@ntlglobe.goon says...
>>
>> g...@aol.com wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
>>> <r...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
>>>> worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.
>>>>
>>>> I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
>>>> resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the
>>>> holes by hand.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously they will not stay.
>>>>
>>>> Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
>>>> one size?
>>>>
>>>> Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them
>>>> back?
>>>>
>>>> Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?
>>>>
>>>> What's the drill for this?
>>>
>>> My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
>>> gutter nail a few inches away.
>>
>> I wondered that as well. If it is the case, then affixing the gutter
>> should only be a temporary measure whilst arranging to replace the
>> fascia.
>
> The nails are supposed to go into the ends of the rafter tails behind
> the fascia. The fascia is likely just 3/4" thick, which doesn't
> provide much strength.

Appreciated, that's the point that I have obviously not expressed clearly. 
The rotted fascia needs to be replaced to avoid affecting the rafter tails 
( if they have not already been affected). 



Re: Gutter Nail Replacement? - 2009-04-18 21:28:00

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:16:50 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) h...@att.net"
<hrh...@att.net> wrote:

>On Apr 18, 4:17 pm, s...@dog.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:36:37 -0400, Frank
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >Ron Hardin wrote:
>> >> My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have worked
>> >> themselves out over 40 years, I guess.
>>
>> >> I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no resistance
>> >> to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.
>>
>> >> Obviously they will not stay.
>>
>> >> Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one size?
>>
>> >> Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?
>>
>> >> Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?
>>
>> >> What's the drill for this?
>>
>> >Ron,
>>
>> >There are gutter screws:
>>
>> >http://www.gutterworks.com/gutterscrews.html
>>
>> >Never tried but I had heard of them.
>>
>> >Frank
>>
>> I've used them. I had one area of gutter that was pulling away and
>> water was running down inside the siding. The gutter screws pulled it
>> tight against the house better than new. I have since gone around the
>> whole house and replaced all nails with the screws. It makes a big
>> difference in how secure the gutters are.
>>
>> That was 15 years ago. No problems since. I've seen them at Home
>> Depot.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>ALternately, fill the hole with hot glue for a quick fix, then drill
>it out just enough for a pilot hole, and renail

I believe it would be worth it, and no more effort, to do it properly
and permanently with gutter screws.


Re: Gutter Nail Replacement? - 2009-04-18 21:29:00

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:43:18 +0100, "Clot" <c...@ntlglobe.goon>
wrote:

>SteveBell wrote:
>> In article E...@newsfe26.ams2>,
>> c...@ntlglobe.goon says...
>>>
>>> g...@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
>>>> <r...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
>>>>> worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
>>>>> resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the
>>>>> holes by hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously they will not stay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
>>>>> one size?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them
>>>>> back?
>>>>>
>>>>> Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the drill for this?
>>>>
>>>> My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
>>>> gutter nail a few inches away.
>>>
>>> I wondered that as well. If it is the case, then affixing the gutter
>>> should only be a temporary measure whilst arranging to replace the
>>> fascia.
>>
>> The nails are supposed to go into the ends of the rafter tails behind
>> the fascia. The fascia is likely just 3/4" thick, which doesn't
>> provide much strength.
>
>Appreciated, that's the point that I have obviously not expressed clearly. 
>The rotted fascia needs to be replaced to avoid affecting the rafter tails 
>( if they have not already been affected). 
>

You are assuming there is rot. It ain't neccesarily so.


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