I've never been happy with the way paint stores over  a period of
years.  

Whenever I buy paint and store it, I'm always very meticulous about
sealing the can, as well as wiping the lid and the groove for the lid.
It seems like no matter what I do, paint always seems to eventually
rust in the can or just plain dry up.  I guess there's nothing that
can be done about the "skin" that forms.

Does anyone have any new or different ideas or some creative ways to
store paint for the long term??

Thanks!

On May 2, 4:56=A0pm, Don   wrote:
> I've never been happy with the way paint stores over =A0a period of
> years. =A0
>
> Whenever I buy paint and store it, I'm always very meticulous about
> sealing the can, as well as wiping the lid and the groove for the lid.
> It seems like no matter what I do, paint always seems to eventually
> rust in the can or just plain dry up. =A0I guess there's nothing that
> can be done about the "skin" that forms.
>
> Does anyone have any new or different ideas or some creative ways to
> store paint for the long term??
>
> Thanks!

Dont, try to buy what you will need, save the mix information , brand,
sheen information... then dispose of excess paint.

Jimmie

"Don" <d...@dmgreen.com> wrote in message 
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>
> I've never been happy with the way paint stores over  a period of
> years.
>
> Whenever I buy paint and store it, I'm always very meticulous about
> sealing the can, as well as wiping the lid and the groove for the lid.
> It seems like no matter what I do, paint always seems to eventually
> rust in the can or just plain dry up.  I guess there's nothing that
> can be done about the "skin" that forms.
>
> Does anyone have any new or different ideas or some creative ways to
> store paint for the long term??
>
> Thanks!
>
>

I have 10 year old paint that's in perfect shape. What kind of paint do you 
typically guy? 

On May 2, 3:56=A0pm, Don   wrote:
> I've never been happy with the way paint stores over =A0a period of
> years. =A0
>
> Whenever I buy paint and store it, I'm always very meticulous about
> sealing the can, as well as wiping the lid and the groove for the lid.
> It seems like no matter what I do, paint always seems to eventually
> rust in the can or just plain dry up. =A0I guess there's nothing that
> can be done about the "skin" that forms.
>
> Does anyone have any new or different ideas or some creative ways to
> store paint for the long term??
>
> Thanks!

Some people have good luck with cleaning the lid groove well, tamping
firmly in place and storing the can up side down. For oil based
paints,  a teaspoon of thinner or Floetrol on the surface will slow
down the skinning over somewhat. HTH

Joe

Don wrote:
> I've never been happy with the way paint stores over  a period of
> years.  
> 
> Whenever I buy paint and store it, I'm always very meticulous about
> sealing the can, as well as wiping the lid and the groove for the lid.
> It seems like no matter what I do, paint always seems to eventually
> rust in the can or just plain dry up.  I guess there's nothing that
> can be done about the "skin" that forms.
> 
> Does anyone have any new or different ideas or some creative ways to
> store paint for the long term??
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
The problems with the paint skinning is due to the Oxygen trapped in the 
top of the can above the paint. A trick that I learned long ago is to 
fill the top of the can with your breath before putting the top on. When 
you do this you decrease the amount of Oxygen present and replace it 
with CO2 which is non reactive. This doesn't completely prevent skinning 
and rusting but IMO it helps quite a bit.

HTH

EJ in NJ

I've had good luck storing paint upside down.  I know some others 
that swear by inserting a gas like propane to displace the oxygen 
just before sealing the can.

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"Don" <d...@dmgreen.com> wrote in message 
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>
> I've never been happy with the way paint stores over  a period 
> of
> years.
>
> Whenever I buy paint and store it, I'm always very meticulous 
> about
> sealing the can, as well as wiping the lid and the groove for 
> the lid.
> It seems like no matter what I do, paint always seems to 
> eventually
> rust in the can or just plain dry up.  I guess there's nothing 
> that
> can be done about the "skin" that forms.
>
> Does anyone have any new or different ideas or some creative 
> ways to
> store paint for the long term??
>
> Thanks!
>
> 

Ernie Willson wrote:
> 
> 
> Don wrote:
>> I've never been happy with the way paint stores over  a period of
>> years. 
>> Whenever I buy paint and store it, I'm always very meticulous about
>> sealing the can, as well as wiping the lid and the groove for the lid.
>> It seems like no matter what I do, paint always seems to eventually
>> rust in the can or just plain dry up.  I guess there's nothing that
>> can be done about the "skin" that forms.
>>
>> Does anyone have any new or different ideas or some creative ways to
>> store paint for the long term??
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
> The problems with the paint skinning is due to the Oxygen trapped in the 
> top of the can above the paint. A trick that I learned long ago is to 
> fill the top of the can with your breath before putting the top on. When 
> you do this you decrease the amount of Oxygen present and replace it 
> with CO2 which is non reactive. This doesn't completely prevent skinning 
> and rusting but IMO it helps quite a bit.
> 
> HTH
> 
> EJ in NJ

As I read Wiki, this would be insignificant:

The permanent gases in gas we exhale are roughly 4% to 5% carbon dioxide 
and 4% to 5% less oxygen than was inhaled. Additionally vapors and trace 
gases are present: 5% water vapor, several parts per million (ppm) of 
hydrogen and carbon monoxide, 1 part per million (ppm) of ammonia and 
less than 1 ppm of acetone, methanol, ethanol (unless ethanol has been 
ingested, in which case much higher concentrations would occur in the 
breath, cf. Breathalyzer) and other volatile organic compounds. The 
exact amount of exhaled oxygen and carbon dioxide varies according to 
the fitness, energy expenditure and diet of that particular person.

After sealing cans, I store upside down to keep out air but every now 
and then a can will corrode and leak.  Never store paint in an area that 
  cannot take a spill ;)

DanG wrote:
> I've had good luck storing paint upside down.  I know some others 
> that swear by inserting a gas like propane to displace the oxygen 
> just before sealing the can.
> 

I use the upside down trick too, but before putting the lid in place I 
hold the tilted can right next to the exhaust pipe of an idling car to 
fill it with oxygen-less gasses, then quickly slap the lid on and pound 
it closed.

A professional painter showed me that technique almost 60 years ago. 

Jeff

-- 
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

Don wrote:
> I've never been happy with the way paint stores over  a period of
> years.  
> 
> Whenever I buy paint and store it, I'm always very meticulous about
> sealing the can, as well as wiping the lid and the groove for the lid.
> It seems like no matter what I do, paint always seems to eventually
> rust in the can or just plain dry up.  I guess there's nothing that
> can be done about the "skin" that forms.
> 
> Does anyone have any new or different ideas or some creative ways to
> store paint for the long term??
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 

Keep the rim clean so it doesn't get globbies that interfere with 
sealing.  When I pour from the can, I line the rim with a strip of foil 
to keep it clean.  When I seal the can, I smack it with a mallet at two 
or three spots around the rim.  If the can is more than about half gone, 
I transfer the paint to another container (be sure to label it).  I have 
paint that is probably 8-9 years old, still good.  Always keep some 
rustoleum primer on hand.

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> Whenever I buy paint and store it, I'm always very meticulous about
> sealing the can, as well as wiping the lid and the groove for the lid.
> It seems like no matter what I do, paint always seems to eventually
> rust in the can or just plain dry up.  I guess there's nothing that
> can be done about the "skin" that forms.
>
> Does anyone have any new or different ideas or some creative ways to
> store paint for the long term??

Store the paint can upside down.  A skin may still form but
chemical interaction of air and paint is reduced.

-- 
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)