All winter we just let our dog out in the back to pee/poop (neutered
bitch Shelty Sheepdog).  Well every spring we see that she created
several dead brown spots in the lawn by repeatedly picking the same
areas to pee.

Is there anything that can be used to neutralize pee in soil so that
the grass can come back faster?  I assume dog pee is acidic and might
need an alkaline product to get the pH corrected again?

What to use?  It's pretty bad this year.

RickH wrote:
> All winter we just let our dog out in the back to pee/poop (neutered
> bitch Shelty Sheepdog).  Well every spring we see that she created
> several dead brown spots in the lawn by repeatedly picking the same
> areas to pee.
> 
> Is there anything that can be used to neutralize pee in soil so that
> the grass can come back faster?  I assume dog pee is acidic and might
> need an alkaline product to get the pH corrected again?
> 
> What to use?  It's pretty bad this year.
> 
Water?

BTW Those are smart dogs so try training her to a small area (with gravel)

On Apr 16, 11:02=A0am, LouB  wrote:
> RickH wrote:
> > All winter we just let our dog out in the back to pee/poop (neutered
> > bitch Shelty Sheepdog). =A0Well every spring we see that she created
> > several dead brown spots in the lawn by repeatedly picking the same
> > areas to pee.
>
> > Is there anything that can be used to neutralize pee in soil so that
> > the grass can come back faster? =A0I assume dog pee is acidic and might
> > need an alkaline product to get the pH corrected again?
>
> > What to use? =A0It's pretty bad this year.
>
> Water?
>
> BTW Those are smart dogs so try training her to a small area (with gravel=
)

Unfortunately water (and lots of it) still does not work by the
beginning of June or so.

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:07:01 -0700 (PDT), RickH
<p...@windcrestsoftware.com> wrote:

>On Apr 16, 11:02 am, LouB  wrote:
>> RickH wrote:
>> > All winter we just let our dog out in the back to pee/poop (neutered
>> > bitch Shelty Sheepdog).  Well every spring we see that she created
>> > several dead brown spots in the lawn by repeatedly picking the same
>> > areas to pee.
>>
>> > Is there anything that can be used to neutralize pee in soil so that
>> > the grass can come back faster?  I assume dog pee is acidic and might
>> > need an alkaline product to get the pH corrected again?
>>
>> > What to use?  It's pretty bad this year.
>>
>> Water?
>>
>> BTW Those are smart dogs so try training her to a small area (with gravel)
>
>Unfortunately water (and lots of it) still does not work by the
>beginning of June or so.

I have the same problem.  My daughter suggested lime.  I am going to
try it.

On Apr 16, 10:33=A0am, RickH  wrote:
> All winter we just let our dog out in the back to pee/poop (neutered
> bitch Shelty Sheepdog). =A0Well every spring we see that she created
> several dead brown spots in the lawn by repeatedly picking the same
> areas to pee.
>
> Is there anything that can be used to neutralize pee in soil so that
> the grass can come back faster? =A0I assume dog pee is acidic and might
> need an alkaline product to get the pH corrected again?
>
> What to use? =A0It's pretty bad this year.

Every year I have the same, I just throw down seed and by the time the
ground is warm enough to germinate 55f it grows. To realy know get a
soil test kit and check ph. Lime is not fast acting in changing ph
level.

RickH wrote:
> All winter we just let our dog out in the back to pee/poop (neutered
> bitch Shelty Sheepdog).  Well every spring we see that she created
> several dead brown spots in the lawn by repeatedly picking the same
> areas to pee.
> 
> Is there anything that can be used to neutralize pee in soil so that
> the grass can come back faster?  I assume dog pee is acidic and might
> need an alkaline product to get the pH corrected again?
> 
> What to use?  It's pretty bad this year.
> 
Water.  Urine is too much nitrogen, same as burning lawn with too much 
fertilizer and/or insufficient water.

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:13:59 -0400, Somewhere Nowhere
<s...@writeme.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:07:01 -0700 (PDT), RickH
><p...@windcrestsoftware.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 16, 11:02 am, LouB  wrote:
>>> RickH wrote:
>>> > All winter we just let our dog out in the back to pee/poop (neutered
>>> > bitch Shelty Sheepdog).  Well every spring we see that she created
>>> > several dead brown spots in the lawn by repeatedly picking the same
>>> > areas to pee.
>>>
>>> > Is there anything that can be used to neutralize pee in soil so that
>>> > the grass can come back faster?  I assume dog pee is acidic and might
>>> > need an alkaline product to get the pH corrected again?
>>>
>>> > What to use?  It's pretty bad this year.
>>>
>>> Water?
>>>
>>> BTW Those are smart dogs so try training her to a small area (with gravel)
>>
>>Unfortunately water (and lots of it) still does not work by the
>>beginning of June or so.
>
>I have the same problem.  My daughter suggested lime.  I am going to
>try it.

Although I never tried it for this situation, I am a farmer and I'd
also suggest the lime.  It's worth a try, and wont cost much for a
bag.  I'd apply the lime, Rake it into the soil well.  Water it well,
and in a week or so, I'd reseed with rye grass mixed with blue grass
or whatever you like.  

LM

RickH wrote:
> 
> All winter we just let our dog out in the back to pee/poop (neutered
> bitch Shelty Sheepdog).  Well every spring we see that she created
> several dead brown spots in the lawn by repeatedly picking the same
> areas to pee.
> 
> Is there anything that can be used to neutralize pee in soil so that
> the grass can come back faster?  I assume dog pee is acidic and might
> need an alkaline product to get the pH corrected again?
> 
> What to use?  It's pretty bad this year.

It's not pH levels that's killing the grass. Urine won't significantly
change the pH and grass is actually tolerant of a pretty wide range of
pH anyway. It's the ammoniacal and urea nitrogen in the urine that is
burning the grass. Just like if you dumped a pile of fertilizer on the
grass. Flushing the area with water after the dog eliminates will help
reduce the nitrogen levels, but you have to get out there soon after
the dog has done its business.

Best solution: build a 4 x 4 dog potty station somewhere on your
property. Edge it with pavers or timbers, fill it with pea gravel. If
you have a male dog, drive a post in the center for it to lift its leg
against. Train your dog to eliminate only in its potty spot. It'll
make cleaning up after the dog easier for you, and keep the lawn free
of brown spots and unpleasant surprises while mowing.

HellT

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:05:19 -0500, Hell Toupee <m...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>RickH wrote:
>> 
>> All winter we just let our dog out in the back to pee/poop (neutered
>> bitch Shelty Sheepdog).  Well every spring we see that she created
>> several dead brown spots in the lawn by repeatedly picking the same
>> areas to pee.
>> 
>> Is there anything that can be used to neutralize pee in soil so that
>> the grass can come back faster?  I assume dog pee is acidic and might
>> need an alkaline product to get the pH corrected again?
>> 
>> What to use?  It's pretty bad this year.
>
>It's not pH levels that's killing the grass. Urine won't significantly
>change the pH and grass is actually tolerant of a pretty wide range of
>pH anyway. It's the ammoniacal and urea nitrogen in the urine that is
>burning the grass. Just like if you dumped a pile of fertilizer on the
>grass. Flushing the area with water after the dog eliminates will help
>reduce the nitrogen levels, but you have to get out there soon after
>the dog has done its business.
>

Not sure when and where I read it, but adding something (??) into the
water bowl / diet would reduce urine burned grass.

A Vet may be able to answer.

"RickH" <p...@windcrestsoftware.com> wrote in message 
news:4...@r37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> All winter we just let our dog out in the back to pee/poop (neutered
> bitch Shelty Sheepdog).  Well every spring we see that she created
> several dead brown spots in the lawn by repeatedly picking the same
> areas to pee.
>
> Is there anything that can be used to neutralize pee in soil so that
> the grass can come back faster?  I assume dog pee is acidic and might
> need an alkaline product to get the pH corrected again?
>
> What to use?  It's pretty bad this year.

Let your dog roam the neighbors yard. It will be their problem.