Hi, helping a friend here.  She's looking for simple plans for a radiator 
cover.  I see nothing like what I have seen in other's houses when it's a 
kitchen.

Design looked for I can possibly spec out myself.  Basically a 5ft or so 
section of wall in a kitchen that can't be used due to radiator and a 
shortage of kitchen counterspace.

I am thinking heavy legs on all 4 corners and a middle set of legs.  On top, 
butcher block and make it about 20 inches so there's countertop usable 
space.  Now on sides and front, attach a pretty metal grill (lace 
patterened).  There's sufficient clearance above and on all sides to still 
be fire safe.

Any additional ideas I may have missed?

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:41:57 -0400, "cshenk" <c...@cox.net> wrote:

>Hi, helping a friend here.  She's looking for simple plans for a radiator 
>cover.  I see nothing like what I have seen in other's houses when it's a 
>kitchen.
>
>Design looked for I can possibly spec out myself.  Basically a 5ft or so 
>section of wall in a kitchen that can't be used due to radiator and a 
>shortage of kitchen counterspace.
>
>I am thinking heavy legs on all 4 corners and a middle set of legs.  On top, 
>butcher block and make it about 20 inches so there's countertop usable 
>space.  Now on sides and front, attach a pretty metal grill (lace 
>patterened).  There's sufficient clearance above and on all sides to still 
>be fire safe.
>
>Any additional ideas I may have missed?
>

You want something, easily movable and easy repairs. I have seen three
sided radiator covers. Shelf on top and can still pull it away from
the wall.

Just thinking about the future...

"Oren" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote:

>>Hi, helping a friend here.  She's looking for simple plans for a radiator
>>cover.  I see nothing like what I have seen in other's houses when it's a
>>kitchen.

>>Any additional ideas I may have missed?

> You want something, easily movable and easy repairs. I have seen three
> sided radiator covers. Shelf on top and can still pull it away from
> the wall. Just thinking about the future...

Agreed fully.  I can flesh out the plan a bit more.  Pretty sure no room for 
a back (against wall) stantion piece.  Was planning a 3 sided sort you can 
just pull away from the wall.

In this one, she also has side shelves (at least one one side) to use for 
rising bread in the leached warmth in winter.

On Apr 21, 5:41=A0pm, "cshenk"  wrote:
> Hi, helping a friend here. =A0She's looking for simple plans for a radiat=
or
> cover. =A0I see nothing like what I have seen in other's houses when it's=
 a
> kitchen.
>
> Design looked for I can possibly spec out myself. =A0Basically a 5ft or s=
o
> section of wall in a kitchen that can't be used due to radiator and a
> shortage of kitchen counterspace.
>
> I am thinking heavy legs on all 4 corners and a middle set of legs. =A0On=
 top,
> butcher block and make it about 20 inches so there's countertop usable
> space. =A0Now on sides and front, attach a pretty metal grill (lace
> patterened). =A0There's sufficient clearance above and on all sides to st=
ill
> be fire safe.
>
> Any additional ideas I may have missed?

The design of the radiator cover can have a huge impact on the
effectiveness of the radiator.  I ran across a site that had showed
the different cross sections of radiator covers and their relative
efficiency.  I'll see if I can find it...hang on.

Damn, sorry it took so long.  Here it is:
http://www.heatinghelp.com/newsletter.cfm?Id=3D77

From that illustration you can see that the enclosure can have a
tremendous effect on the heating capacity of a radiator - something
like a 40% swing in effective capacity.  When the old timers sized a
system's radiators, they could fine tune comfort levels in particular
rooms by painting the radiators a different color (metallic paints put
out the least amount of heat, white, black and terra cotta put out the
most), or building a radiator enclosure with a particular design which
would increase or decrease the heating capacity of that radiator.

R

Here's one link to painting radiators and its effects of heating
efficiency:
http://www.heatinghelp.com/newsletter.cfm?Id=38
The one about the particular colors of paint is floating around
somewhere - I'll see if I can find it and post it later.

R

On Apr 21, 10:37=A0pm, RicodJour  wrote:
> Here's one link to painting radiators and its effects of heating
> efficiency:http://www.heatinghelp.com/newsletter.cfm?Id=3D38
> The one about the particular colors of paint is floating around
> somewhere - I'll see if I can find it and post it later.
>
> R

It's a shame to hide cast iron rads. We blasted and repainted ours
placing a marble slab shelf on each. Looks great.

"cshenk" <c...@cox.net> wrote in
news:XjsHl.55523$L...@newsfe20.iad: 

> "Oren" wrote
>> "cshenk" wrote:
> 
>>>Hi, helping a friend here.  She's looking for simple plans for a
>>>radiator cover.  I see nothing like what I have seen in other's
>>>houses when it's a kitchen.
> 
>>>Any additional ideas I may have missed?
> 
>> You want something, easily movable and easy repairs. I have seen
>> three sided radiator covers. Shelf on top and can still pull it away
>> from the wall. Just thinking about the future...
> 
> Agreed fully.  I can flesh out the plan a bit more.  Pretty sure no
> room for a back (against wall) stantion piece.  Was planning a 3 sided
> sort you can just pull away from the wall.
> 
> In this one, she also has side shelves (at least one one side) to use
> for rising bread in the leached warmth in winter.

In our former home, I built bookcases under the windows with a "hole" 
where the radiators were.  I put an aluminum foil-like thingy behind the 
radiator to insulate the wall a bit more and reflect the heat (forget the 
official name).  Highly recommended.  In addition,  in front of the 
radiator itself, I left about 3 inches at the bottom and the top open, 
the remainder was a piece of radiator front metal patterned mesh bought 
in the local hardware store or predecessor of HD.  This setup had the 
advantage of acting as a conduit to blow the heated air into the room, 
totally by passive convection, no fans, but strong nevertheles.  We had 
steam heat.  Whole setup worked beautifully!

-- 
Best regards
Han 
email address is invalid

RicodJour <r...@worldemail.com> wrote in news:5894a52c-bdc6-42e7-acaa-
e...@d14g2000yql.googlegroups.com:

> Here's one link to painting radiators and its effects of heating
> efficiency:
> http://www.heatinghelp.com/newsletter.cfm?Id=38
> The one about the particular colors of paint is floating around
> somewhere - I'll see if I can find it and post it later.
> 
> R
> 

Agree with your posts!

-- 
Best regards
Han 
email address is invalid

The design of the radiator cover can have a huge impact on the
effectiveness of the radiator.  I ran across a site that had showed
the different cross sections of radiator covers and their relative
efficiency.  I'll see if I can find it...hang on.

Damn, sorry it took so long.  Here it is:
http://www.heatinghelp.com/newsletter.cfm?Id=77

From that illustration you can see that the enclosure can have a
tremendous effect on the heating capacity of a radiator - something
like a 40% swing in effective capacity.  When the old timers sized a
system's radiators, they could fine tune comfort levels in particular
rooms by painting the radiators a different color (metallic paints put
out the least amount of heat, white, black and terra cotta put out the
most), or building a radiator enclosure with a particular design which
would increase or decrease the heating capacity of that radiator.

That was fast for me.

Does the same apply to baseboard radiant heating? I would assume it does 
since the concept is still the same. Therefore, I made my own covers out of 
finish grade pine (no knots) and stained and polyed them to match my oak 
floors. I tried two different designs on separate rooms. One, I routed 
grooves to emulate the grill appearance on top of the main board while 
leaving an inch along the bottom. The other, I left the top intact, such as 
a shelf, also leaving an inch on the bottom and another inch along the top 
of the face.

I heard of the aluminum foil concept behind it for better results after I've 
completed them which I will install this summer. 

"RicodJour" <r...@worldemail.com> wrote in message 
news:5...@d14g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
> Here's one link to painting radiators and its effects of heating
> efficiency:
> http://www.heatinghelp.com/newsletter.cfm?Id=38
> The one about the particular colors of paint is floating around
> somewhere - I'll see if I can find it and post it later.
>
> R

Hello, my name is Granby and what I want is to build a table over the hot 
water radiator that runs across the floor.  All the things that were 
described to you were so that it could be a counter top cork space and such.

I hope my friend will continue to answer any questions you may have.  Am 
blind and usually top post but understand it isn't permitted here.  Had help 
getting to the right spot this time.  Thank you for any help you can be.