I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house.  There is no way
a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that 
discussion.  I would like to mount the antenna near the peak.  I don't
have a chimney.  The house is quite high being a two storey house plus
the basement is only half buried.  The peak of the house has a gable end
at both sides.

Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the 
eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof.

I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the 
shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks 
intriguing.  Any users out there?

My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket 
at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to 
the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets.
How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is 
strong enough to hold it?

I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite 
dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically 
in any spot near the peak.  Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the 
side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable 
end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding.

Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 
41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount.

Let me know how you would attack this task!

Thanks,

Larry

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
<s...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house.  There is no way
>a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that 
>discussion.  I would like to mount the antenna near the peak.  I don't
>have a chimney.  The house is quite high being a two storey house plus
>the basement is only half buried.  The peak of the house has a gable end
>at both sides.
>
>Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the 
>eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof.
>
>I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the 
>shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks 
>intriguing.  Any users out there?
>
>My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket 
>at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to 
>the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets.
>How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is 
>strong enough to hold it?
>
>I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite 
>dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically 
>in any spot near the peak.  Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the 
>side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable 
>end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding.
>
>Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 
>41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount.
>
>Let me know how you would attack this task!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Larry

You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could
be secured at the ground and at the top.

http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam

t...@mucks.net wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
> <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house.  There is no way
>> a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that 
>> discussion.  I would like to mount the antenna near the peak.  I don't
>> have a chimney.  The house is quite high being a two storey house plus
>> the basement is only half buried.  The peak of the house has a gable end
>> at both sides.
>>
>> Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the 
>> eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof.
>>
>> I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the 
>> shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks 
>> intriguing.  Any users out there?
>>
>> My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket 
>> at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to 
>> the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets.
>> How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is 
>> strong enough to hold it?
>>
>> I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite 
>> dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically 
>> in any spot near the peak.  Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the 
>> side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable 
>> end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding.
>>
>> Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 
>> 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount.
>>
>> Let me know how you would attack this task!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
> 
> You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could
> be secured at the ground and at the top.
> 
> http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam

that's what I have.  3 piece telescope.  works well.  mount it on the 
side facing the transmitters.

t...@mucks.net wrote in news:1...@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
> <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house.  There is no way
>>a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that 
>>discussion.  I would like to mount the antenna near the peak.  I don't
>>have a chimney.  The house is quite high being a two storey house plus
>>the basement is only half buried.  The peak of the house has a gable
>>end at both sides.
>>
>>Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if
>>the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to
>>the roof. 
>>
>>I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the 
>>shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks 
>>intriguing.  Any users out there?
>>
>>My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a
>>bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from
>>one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of
>>both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell
>>if the eave is strong enough to hold it?
>>
>>I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite 
>>dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it
>>vertically in any spot near the peak.  Would it be possible to mount a
>>J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at
>>intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl
>>siding. 
>>
>>Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is
>>about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount.
>>
>>Let me know how you would attack this task!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Larry
> 
> You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could
> be secured at the ground and at the top.
> 
> http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam

Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my 
situation.  While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach 
it at the top?  If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount 
kit on that web site you referred to above.

The peak of my gable is way up there.  I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure 
it's at least ten feed short for the peak.  I will likely need to go to 
the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low 
end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach.  I 
just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into.  Anyone 
have information on typical roof construction?  Will there be a 2x8 facia 
on the gable, under the siding?

Thanks,

Larry

"GoHabsGo" <s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:X...@85.214.105.209...

> > You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could
> > be secured at the ground and at the top.
> >
> > http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam
>
> Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my
> situation.  While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach
> it at the top?  If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount
> kit on that web site you referred to above.
>
> The peak of my gable is way up there.  I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure
> it's at least ten feed short for the peak.  I will likely need to go to
> the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low
> end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach.  I
> just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into.  Anyone
> have information on typical roof construction?  Will there be a 2x8 facia
> on the gable, under the siding?

1.  Advisers cannot help much since the OP did not say
how the house is built (masonry, framed timber etc.) or how old.
2.  The brace for a telescoping antenna carries no weight
(except itself) so can be fairlly light.  It needs only sufficient
strength to resist maximum winds.  The municipal building
permits office may have free advice about this.
3.  It is notoriously unsafe to  work under the eaves from
atop a roof, working upside down.  When a carpenter put
an extra window under my eaves he brought his own scaffold,
about 4 x 6 ft. footprint, and took it up to 20 ft. height in less than
10 minutes.

-- 
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



It is notoriously unsafe to fasten

GoHabsGo wrote:
> t...@mucks.net wrote in news:1...@4ax.com:
> 
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
>> <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house.  There is no way
>>> a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that 
>>> discussion.  I would like to mount the antenna near the peak.  I don't
>>> have a chimney.  The house is quite high being a two storey house plus
>>> the basement is only half buried.  The peak of the house has a gable
>>> end at both sides.
>>>
>>> Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if
>>> the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to
>>> the roof. 
>>>
>>> I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the 
>>> shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks 
>>> intriguing.  Any users out there?
>>>
>>> My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a
>>> bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from
>>> one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of
>>> both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell
>>> if the eave is strong enough to hold it?
>>>
>>> I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite 
>>> dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it
>>> vertically in any spot near the peak.  Would it be possible to mount a
>>> J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at
>>> intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl
>>> siding. 
>>>
>>> Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is
>>> about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount.
>>>
>>> Let me know how you would attack this task!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Larry
>> You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could
>> be secured at the ground and at the top.
>>
>> http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my 
> situation.  While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach 
> it at the top?  If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount 
> kit on that web site you referred to above.
> 
> The peak of my gable is way up there.  I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure 
> it's at least ten feed short for the peak.  I will likely need to go to 
> the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low 
> end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach.  I 
> just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into.  Anyone 
> have information on typical roof construction?  Will there be a 2x8 facia 
> on the gable, under the siding?

with the telescoping antenna you can work on it with ease and then raise 
it up one section at a time till it is fully extended.  much easier and 
safer than trying to do what you envision.  good luck,.

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:51:44 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
<s...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>t...@mucks.net wrote in news:1...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
>> <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house.  There is no way
>>>a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that 
>>>discussion.  I would like to mount the antenna near the peak.  I don't
>>>have a chimney.  The house is quite high being a two storey house plus
>>>the basement is only half buried.  The peak of the house has a gable
>>>end at both sides.
>>>
>>>Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if
>>>the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to
>>>the roof. 
>>>
>>>I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the 
>>>shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks 
>>>intriguing.  Any users out there?
>>>
>>>My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a
>>>bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from
>>>one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of
>>>both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell
>>>if the eave is strong enough to hold it?
>>>
>>>I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite 
>>>dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it
>>>vertically in any spot near the peak.  Would it be possible to mount a
>>>J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at
>>>intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl
>>>siding. 
>>>
>>>Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is
>>>about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount.
>>>
>>>Let me know how you would attack this task!
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Larry
>> 
>> You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could
>> be secured at the ground and at the top.
>> 
>> http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam
>
>Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my 
>situation.  While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach 
>it at the top?  If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount 
>kit on that web site you referred to above.
>
>The peak of my gable is way up there.  I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure 
>it's at least ten feed short for the peak.  I will likely need to go to 
>the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low 
>end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach.  I 
>just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into.  Anyone 
>have information on typical roof construction?  Will there be a 2x8 facia 
>on the gable, under the siding?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Larry

Well I have installed a similar sized TV antenna with the eave mount
brackets on a 1995 vinyl sided house. Wood was underneath. I 
used a five foot mast pipe and separated the two brackets by about 
12 inches. It is holding up well.

I would try to get as much separation as possible between the
brackets.

Larry,

First off you may wish to start with this:
http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Welcome.aspx

Also you may wish to consider that the neighborhood can't prevent you from
erecting a tower if that is your desire, federal law trumps local ordinance
here unless you do not own your back yard.

Good luck.


-- 
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.


"GoHabsGo" <s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:X...@85.214.105.209...
> I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house.  There is no way
> a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that
> discussion.  I would like to mount the antenna near the peak.  I don't
> have a chimney.  The house is quite high being a two storey house plus
> the basement is only half buried.  The peak of the house has a gable end
> at both sides.
>
> Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the
> eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof.
>
> I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the
> shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks
> intriguing.  Any users out there?
>
> My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket
> at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to
> the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets.
> How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is
> strong enough to hold it?
>
> I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite
> dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically
> in any spot near the peak.  Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the
> side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable
> end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding.
>
> Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about
> 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount.
>
> Let me know how you would attack this task!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry

>Anyone 
>have information on typical roof construction?  Will there be a 2x8
>facia on the gable, under the siding?

Round here, fascia construction is a 2x4 nailed to the ends of the
rafter tails, with a 3/8x6 piece of decorative trim on top.

You'll hit the 2x4 no matter where you put in a screw (as long as you
stay in the upper 3.5 inches), but it's better to hit the rafter tails
so you can use really long screws. There'll be a tail on either side of
the peak. Look for nails in the decorative fascia for a clue to the
exact location.

Some higher-end houses have actual 2x6 or 2x8 boards with no decorative
layer. I would still hit the rafter tails.

-- 
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX USA

FreeTheBirthCert wrote:
> GoHabsGo wrote:
>> t...@mucks.net wrote in news:1...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
>>> <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house.  There is no way
>>>> a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that 
>>>> discussion.  I would like to mount the antenna near the peak.  I don't
>>>> have a chimney.  The house is quite high being a two storey house plus
>>>> the basement is only half buried.  The peak of the house has a gable
>>>> end at both sides.
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if
>>>> the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to
>>>> the roof.
>>>> I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the 
>>>> shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks 
>>>> intriguing.  Any users out there?
>>>>
>>>> My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a
>>>> bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from
>>>> one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of
>>>> both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell
>>>> if the eave is strong enough to hold it?
>>>>
>>>> I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for 
>>>> satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to 
>>>> mount it
>>>> vertically in any spot near the peak.  Would it be possible to mount a
>>>> J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at
>>>> intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl
>>>> siding.
>>>> Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is
>>>> about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know how you would attack this task!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>> You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could
>>> be secured at the ground and at the top.
>>>
>>> http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for 
>> my situation.  While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I 
>> attach it at the top?  If that is answered, I think I could use that 
>> eave mount kit on that web site you referred to above.
>>
>> The peak of my gable is way up there.  I have a 24' ladder and I'm 
>> sure it's at least ten feed short for the peak.  I will likely need to 
>> go to the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach 
>> the low end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to 
>> attach.  I just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt 
>> into.  Anyone have information on typical roof construction?  Will 
>> there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding?
> 
> with the telescoping antenna you can work on it with ease and then raise 
> it up one section at a time till it is fully extended.  much easier and 
> safer than trying to do what you envision.  good luck,.

He still needs to attach it to the fly rafter on the gable, which is 
apparently close to three stories off the ground. (2 story over walkout 
basement, pretty common around here.)

--
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